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Liu, Yaxun (Sam) via cfe-dev
Anna Zaks, David Blaikie and I have been at Grace Hopper Conference for the last couple days talking to many people about LLVM and how to get involved in the project. Its been discussed many times before at LLVM Developer Meetings and recently on the mailing list about tagging bugs with the “beginner” keyword and that keyword was recently added to the LLVM Bugzilla. However, there are very few bugs(12) actually in Bugzilla with this keyword: https://bugs.llvm.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=beginner&list_id=125621

It would be a huge help and a benefit to the growth of the community if we could tag more bugs with this keyword. If several members of the community could tag just 5 bugs with this keyword we could easily increase the number of bugs suitable for beginners.

I know everyone is very busy but there are so many students and newcomers that could greatly benefit from this. Please consider helping if you can.

Thank you,
Tanya





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Re: [llvm-dev] Beginner Bugs - Need help tagging

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On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Tanya Lattner via llvm-dev
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Anna Zaks, David Blaikie and I have been at Grace Hopper Conference for the last couple days talking to many people about LLVM and how to get involved in the project. Its been discussed many times before at LLVM Developer Meetings and recently on the mailing list about tagging bugs with the “beginner” keyword and that keyword was recently added to the LLVM Bugzilla. However, there are very few bugs(12) actually in Bugzilla with this keyword: https://bugs.llvm.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=beginner&list_id=125621
>
> It would be a huge help and a benefit to the growth of the community if we could tag more bugs with this keyword. If several members of the community could tag just 5 bugs with this keyword we could easily increase the number of bugs suitable for beginners.
>

Many of these bugs have been touched/marked in the last 3 months, but
none of them has been picked yet.
I'm not sure what's the cause, and I don't belong to the marketing
department, but my feeling is that it's not enough marking bugs with a
beginner keyword to give them visibility. Probably a "contribute" page
on llvm.org or mentioning them on http://llvm.org/OpenProjects.html
(if they're not already, I was able to find only mentions to `code
cleanups`), would help.

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Re: [llvm-dev] Beginner Bugs - Need help tagging

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> On Oct 5, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Davide Italiano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Tanya Lattner via llvm-dev
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Anna Zaks, David Blaikie and I have been at Grace Hopper Conference for the last couple days talking to many people about LLVM and how to get involved in the project. Its been discussed many times before at LLVM Developer Meetings and recently on the mailing list about tagging bugs with the “beginner” keyword and that keyword was recently added to the LLVM Bugzilla. However, there are very few bugs(12) actually in Bugzilla with this keyword: https://bugs.llvm.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=beginner&list_id=125621
>>
>> It would be a huge help and a benefit to the growth of the community if we could tag more bugs with this keyword. If several members of the community could tag just 5 bugs with this keyword we could easily increase the number of bugs suitable for beginners.
>>
>
> Many of these bugs have been touched/marked in the last 3 months, but
> none of them has been picked yet.
> I'm not sure what's the cause, and I don't belong to the marketing
> department, but my feeling is that it's not enough marking bugs with a
> beginner keyword to give them visibility. Probably a "contribute" page
> on llvm.org or mentioning them on http://llvm.org/OpenProjects.html
> (if they're not already, I was able to find only mentions to `code
> cleanups`), would help.
>

Yes, this is very true that we also need to advertise and give better visibility to how someone who is new can get involved. One of the things I am distributing at Grace Hopper is small postcard with links and things to do or read if you are a beginner. We truly need to put something like this on our website. If someone wants to spearhead this, that would be awesome. I always say when I get time I will start doing this on our website, but maybe someone will get to it before me.

So while yes it may not be the total solution, I do think its worthwhile to do this.

-Tanya



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Re: [llvm-dev] Beginner Bugs - Need help tagging

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I just went through and added a bunch I'd collected.  We seem to be up
to around 45 with a fairly decent spectrum of areas covered.

Another source of potentially good starter bugs would be the output from
the various fuzzers.  Many of those tend to be small fixes, but they
might present a challenge getting reviewed.

Has anyone gotten the time to link to this from somewhere on the website?

On 10/05/2017 06:52 PM, Tanya Lattner via llvm-dev wrote:

> Anna Zaks, David Blaikie and I have been at Grace Hopper Conference for the last couple days talking to many people about LLVM and how to get involved in the project. Its been discussed many times before at LLVM Developer Meetings and recently on the mailing list about tagging bugs with the “beginner” keyword and that keyword was recently added to the LLVM Bugzilla. However, there are very few bugs(12) actually in Bugzilla with this keyword: https://bugs.llvm.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=beginner&list_id=125621
>
> It would be a huge help and a benefit to the growth of the community if we could tag more bugs with this keyword. If several members of the community could tag just 5 bugs with this keyword we could easily increase the number of bugs suitable for beginners.
>
> I know everyone is very busy but there are so many students and newcomers that could greatly benefit from this. Please consider helping if you can.
>
> Thank you,
> Tanya
>
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Re: [llvm-dev] Beginner Bugs - Need help tagging

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On 25/12/2017 18:10, Philip Reames via llvm-dev wrote:
> I just went through and added a bunch I'd collected.  We seem to be up
> to around 45 with a fairly decent spectrum of areas covered.
>
> Another source of potentially good starter bugs would be the output from
> the various fuzzers.  Many of those tend to be small fixes, but they
> might present a challenge getting reviewed.
>
> Has anyone gotten the time to link to this from somewhere on the website?
>

AFAIK not yet.

I was thinking about putting up a `new contributors` page, with some
helpful information including a link to the beginners label. I was
hoping to put something up for review in the next couple of days, if
anybody thinks that would be useful.

Cheers,
Florian


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Re: [llvm-dev] Beginner Bugs - Need help tagging

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On 12/25/2017 01:21 PM, Florian Hahn wrote:

>
>
> On 25/12/2017 18:10, Philip Reames via llvm-dev wrote:
>> I just went through and added a bunch I'd collected.  We seem to be up
>> to around 45 with a fairly decent spectrum of areas covered.
>>
>> Another source of potentially good starter bugs would be the output from
>> the various fuzzers.  Many of those tend to be small fixes, but they
>> might present a challenge getting reviewed.
>>
>> Has anyone gotten the time to link to this from somewhere on the
>> website?
>>
>
> AFAIK not yet.
>
> I was thinking about putting up a `new contributors` page, with some
> helpful information including a link to the beginners label. I was
> hoping to put something up for review in the next couple of days, if
> anybody thinks that would be useful.
Sounds like a good idea and I'll happily review.

>
> Cheers,
> Florian
>
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Re: [llvm-dev] Beginner Bugs - Need help tagging

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: llvm-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Philip Reames via llvm-dev
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 11:30 AM
> To: Florian Hahn; Tanya Lattner; llvm-dev
> Cc: Clang Dev
> Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] Beginner Bugs - Need help tagging
>
>
>
> On 12/25/2017 01:21 PM, Florian Hahn wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 25/12/2017 18:10, Philip Reames via llvm-dev wrote:
> >> I just went through and added a bunch I'd collected.  We seem to be up
> >> to around 45 with a fairly decent spectrum of areas covered.
> >>
> >> Another source of potentially good starter bugs would be the output
> from
> >> the various fuzzers.  Many of those tend to be small fixes, but they
> >> might present a challenge getting reviewed.
> >>
> >> Has anyone gotten the time to link to this from somewhere on the
> >> website?
> >>
> >
> > AFAIK not yet.
> >
> > I was thinking about putting up a `new contributors` page, with some
> > helpful information including a link to the beginners label. I was
> > hoping to put something up for review in the next couple of days, if
> > anybody thinks that would be useful.
> Sounds like a good idea and I'll happily review.

+1 and ditto.  I even have access to a newcomer and can see what he thinks.
--paulr

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> > Cheers,
> > Florian
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Re: [llvm-dev] Beginner Bugs - Need help tagging

Liu, Yaxun (Sam) via cfe-dev
On 28/12/2017 18:06, Robinson, Paul wrote:

>
>
>> From: llvm-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>> Philip Reames via llvm-dev
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 11:30 AM
>> To: Florian Hahn; Tanya Lattner; llvm-dev
>> Cc: Clang Dev
>> Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] Beginner Bugs - Need help tagging
>>
>>>
>>> I was thinking about putting up a `new contributors` page, with some
>>> helpful information including a link to the beginners label. I was
>>> hoping to put something up for review in the next couple of days, if
>>> anybody thinks that would be useful.
>> Sounds like a good idea and I'll happily review.
>
> +1 and ditto.  I even have access to a newcomer and can see what he thinks.
> --paulr
>

I have put up a first version of a page for (new) contributors to LLVM
up for review: https://reviews.llvm.org/D41665

Looking forward to your comments.

Cheers,
Florian
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Re: [llvm-dev] Beginner Bugs - Need help tagging

Liu, Yaxun (Sam) via cfe-dev

Hi,


the first version of the contributing page is now online, thanks to Tanya for sorting out the doc build issue: https://llvm.org/docs/Contributing.html


The page is intended as a first point of entry for (new) contributors to LLVM, so I think it would make sense to link it on somewhere on https://llvm.org/, what do you think?


Maybe it would also be worth mentioning it in the README or have a CONTRIBUTING file in the project root.


Cheers,

Florian


From: Florian Hahn <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 2:21:17 PM
To: Robinson, Paul; Philip Reames; Tanya Lattner
Cc: Clang Dev; llvm-dev; nd
Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] Beginner Bugs - Need help tagging
 
On 28/12/2017 18:06, Robinson, Paul wrote:
>
>
>> From: llvm-dev [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>> Philip Reames via llvm-dev
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 11:30 AM
>> To: Florian Hahn; Tanya Lattner; llvm-dev
>> Cc: Clang Dev
>> Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] Beginner Bugs - Need help tagging
>>
>>>
>>> I was thinking about putting up a `new contributors` page, with some
>>> helpful information including a link to the beginners label. I was
>>> hoping to put something up for review in the next couple of days, if
>>> anybody thinks that would be useful.
>> Sounds like a good idea and I'll happily review.
>
> +1 and ditto.  I even have access to a newcomer and can see what he thinks.
> --paulr
>

I have put up a first version of a page for (new) contributors to LLVM
up for review: https://reviews.llvm.org/D41665

Looking forward to your comments.

Cheers,
Florian

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